After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. You say that now. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. But we're just a free cock punch away from finding out how badass you really are. It's for practice, not for competition. Again, plated & FMJ are NOT the same, close but not the same. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. LRN Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Titegroup Bullet Diameter .356" C.O.L. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. Close w/ TG can be problematic. This powder is very popular. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. Looks like i will test some 4.0 and 4.2 as long as they stay below 1200. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. BrianEnos.com A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. YMMV. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. I am using CBI pistol powder. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Look at the large picture below, you can see, a normal load barely fills the case, its way down in there. I used data for 115gr FMJ because I thought that's what the Berry's bullets were. Appreciate the input. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. Your previous content has been restored. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. Your link has been automatically embedded. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. I consider the type of bullet. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. We believe the 2nd Amendment is best defended through grass-roots organization, education, and advocacy centered around individual gun owners. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. C.O.A.L. By To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. Obligatory start low and work your way up Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser settings before proceeding. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. I dont think i would worry about it. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. Powered by Invision Community. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. Loading is always at your own risk. That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. Load at your own risk. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. You are using an out of date browser. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. Nuts accurate. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. LOL. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Wish i could find it again. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. 10-12 ft according to my chronos instructions inorder to prevent getting false readings due to the muzzle blast. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. behind a 115gr. Probably saved me some money. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. This is a flattened spherical powder. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. Unique. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. and 8 lb. So filling up half way looks normal. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Then work up from there. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DSbEZeGeToe2YIoHyMXMjO9Oyp_dvQEM7VJ3tqfdwg0/edit?usp=sharing. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. Save Share. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. My brother gave me some Titegroup. No issues there. I have an old Lee maual, but it doesn't have any info on Titegroup. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. He play trumpet in the Junior High Band and I am an honor roll student at St. Pats. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. Upload or insert images from URL. For 231 I used 4.3 gr @ 1.130" OAL. Dianna has been highlighted by the NRA in American Warrior, the Washington Post and NRA Women. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. Skip this one, you can do better. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? containers. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. What type of a load are you attempting to develope? http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. Display as a link instead, Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? In Pistols and Revolvers.. Unique - 5.7 gn - 1250 fps. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. Early on, its pointy full-metal-jacket rounds gave the 9x19mm a reputation as a horrible antipersonnel round. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. I sold off all except Titegroup. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. No Charges? Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. JavaScript is disabled. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. Boris_La . Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. Thanks all. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. Can't keep enough at the house. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. Load two according to the new data for the 124gr XTP has an OAL 1.140 with a power range of 3.6 to 4.1 grains that would make this unsafe. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Makes an impression on you. Cases were mixed brands of commercial brass and not sorted by maker. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. Does it make a difference? This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. I tried to make it "view only", if for some reason it does not come across that way please don't edit the document and let me know so I can adjust it. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. With Hornady and Precision Delta 115gr FMJ best accuracy from my CZ75s is with 4.2-4.3 gr TG (~1100fps) Boris_La Posts: 85 Join date . There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. containers. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. What is your favorite firearm to load for? A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Really..so, how would someone measure that? I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. I want to be safe. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. I will be shooting mostly target at the range, 150-200 rounds per visit. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. JavaScript is disabled. Its no wonder so many people love this powder for their economical loads, its cheap AND accurate. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! Seen a few of those over the years. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's why when I figured out that my previous loads were unsafe I called Berry's to get correct info. looking4reloadingdeals MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . I use tight group for 9mm. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. Starting Load Grains 4.9 Velocity (ft/s) 1,124 Pressure 28,800 PSI Maximum Load Grains 5.4 Velocity (ft/s) 1,209 Pressure 33,800 PSI Barrel Length: 4" Case: Winchester Primer: CCI 500, Small Pistol Trim Length: .750" Twist: 1:10" 115 GR. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. 3.4 gr. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. Walker loves waterfowl hunting with his black lab Pow.
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